Article by Bryan Howard
May 29, 2020
The phone call transcripts between General Michael Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak were released Friday evening. In the transcript you will discover that Flynn did nothing wrong and made a perfectly normal and boring phone call for an incoming Director for National Intelligence.
Below is a snippet of of the transcript that relates to what the Obama administration and Comey attempted to claim was about wider economic sanctions. However, as you will see in the transcript there is nothing discussing wider economic sanctions and only kislyack mentioned the expulsion sanctions.
Flynn only attempted to ask Kislyak to not overreact and let cooler heads prevail. This is a far cry from any Logan act the Obama administration and Comey attempted to create from this phone call.
Flynn wants to convey the following [to Moscow]: Do not allow this administration to box us in right now! Kislyak says the have conveyed it very clearly.
Flynn: So, depending on what actions they take over this current issue of cyber stuff, where they are looking like they are going to dismiss some number of Russians out of the country. I understand all that and I understand that the information that they have and all that. But I ask Russia to do is to not, if anything, I know you have to have some sort of action, to only make it reciprocal; don’t go any further than you have to because I don’t want us to get into something that have to escalate to tit-for-tat. Do you follow me?
Kislyak says he understands what Flynn is saying, but Flynn might appreciate the sentiments that are raging now in Moscow.
Flynn: I know! Believe me I do! I very much appreciate it! But I really do not want us to get into the situation where we everybody goes back and forth and everybody had to be a tough guy here. We don’t need that right now. We need cool heads to prevail. And we need to be very steady about what we are going to do because we have absolutely a common threat in the Middle East.
Kislyak agrees. Now when FSB and GRU are sanctioned and Kislyak asks himself, does it mean that the U.S. is not willing to work on terrorist threats, Kislyak poses a question. Flynn says, yes.
Kislyak says he heard Flynn and he will try people in Moscow to understand.
Flynn repeats asking to reciprocate moderately because if Moscow sends out 60 people, “you will shut down the embassy. ”
Flynn: Let’s keep this at even-kill level; then when we come in, we will have a better
conversation where we are going to go regarding our relationship. And also, basically, we have to take these enemies on that we have. We definitely have a common enemy. You have a problem with it. We have a problem with it in this country and we definitely have a problem with
it in the Middle East.
Below are the main points of the transcript that is important to read.
Here is a link to the entire released transcript from Director for National Intelligence John Ratcliffe.